“TO PRESERVE THE POSSIBILITY OF COMMUNAL LIFE AND EMANCIPATION”: AN INTERVIEW WITH JOSHUA CLOVER

BY DENNIS BÜSCHER-ULBRICHMARLON LIEBER. Coils of the Serpent ISSUE 8 (2021): IM/POSSIBILITY: ON THE PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION, AND ARTICULATION OF THE POSSIBLE AND

Joshua Clover: I suppose this question pivots on how we define socialism. Is it still the
lower stage of communism, a step along the way? None of contemporary anglophone
socialism’s leading lights seem to think so; they tend to articulate whatever they are
calling socialism as the end of the road. Moreover, the imagined course of
capitalism→socialism→communism that has been with us at least since “Critique of the
Gotha Program,” and was a kind of common sense of the worker’s movement a century
ago, was premised on a historically concrete situation in which industrial production
oriented social organization, and worker control of that sector gave onto total
expropriation of the expropriators. Is that still true? Is there still a worker’s movement
in that way?

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